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Subject: Re: Hey the crackers have a new twist 8-(.
From: Marcus J Ranum <mjr @ tis . com>
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 94 09:36:14 EST
To: ericm @ MicroUnity . com, firewalls @ GreatCircle . COM, imd1707 @ ggr . co . uk, rouilj @ terminus . cs . umb . edu, sean+ @ andrew . cmu . edu

>>                  the alternative being real authentication (eg
>> SecurId) for every outbound connexion as well as every inbound
>
>Actually, it occurs that in this second scenario -- a confederate of the
>baddies, perhaps a disaffected employee inside your network -- even
>authentication of outbound connections wouldn't help you:
 [...scenario deleted...]                           
>..even if she has to supply the connect authentication manually (eg
>SecurId) to set the connection up.  So even things like TIS's
>authentication hooks don't seem to prevent this kind of thing?

	You can't solve social problems with software. :)

	Disaffected employees and confederates of baddies are a
problem that most firewalls can't solve. This is why, for example,
intelligence and defense computing agencies do background checks
and require clearances, etc, etc. That kind of thing works to a
fair extent, but obviously there are some well-publicised lapses.

	After all, if you're worried about a disaffected employee,
then you have to worry about him leaving all sorts of digital time
bombs around your internal network, leaving the building with a DAT
filled with proprietary data, or telephoning your competitors and
giving away the store.

	Authentication (like in the TIS toolkit) isn't going to
help you much, unless your perpetrator leaves clear tracks in
the firewall's audit trail.

	This is why risk assessments and security policies are
important. They force you to consider whether what you're worrying
about makes any sense. You need to consider:

	+ What bad things might happen to you
	+ How much they will hurt you if they do

	Then assign some likelihoods to the threats and start to
decide what's the acceptable level of risk you're willing to operate
under. If your list of potential bad things contains the threat
that you're afraid of nazi paratroopers attacking your computer
room, and it has a fairly low likelihood then perhaps it's better
to worry about your use of plaintext passwords over the internet,
because even though the damage is likely to be less severe, the
attack is more likely to occur.

	If your data is so important that you are worried about
moles and insiders, then perhaps you should consider a secure
facility for that information, background checks for your staff,
and so forth. There *are* some environments where such measures
are completely justified. Most of them would never dream of
connecting to the Internet, and we should be glad of it.

mjr.


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