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Subject: Re: Advice on Firewall Politics (fwd)
From: tom @ pserv1 . dot . state . az . us (Tom Brink)
Organization: Arizona Department of Transportation
Date: Wed, 18 May 94 12:55:51 MST
To: firewalls @ greatcircle . com (Firewalls Mailing List)
Reply-to: firewalls @ greatcircle . com

Adam Shostack writes:
> From: Adam Shostack <adam @
 bwh .
 harvard .
 edu>
> Subject: Re:  Advice on Firewall Politics
> To: mckenney @
 smiley .
 mitre .
 org (Brian W. McKenney)
> Date: Wed, 18 May 94 12:02:32 EDT
> Cc: firewalls @
 greatcircle .
 com
> Sender: Firewalls-Owner @
 greatcircle .
 com
> Precedence: bulk
>

...much stuff deleted

> 	It turns out that the big problem has not been external, but
> local.  Quite a few students have attempted to break in.  I strongly
> suspect that local attacks will be much more of a problem at small
> schools.  Often, there isn't very much worth breaking into from the
> point of view of outsiders.  This is the opposite of large, well known
> institutions like AT&T or banks, or even MIT, where the target has
> interesting stuff on their computers.
> 
> 	At companies, the employer has control over every employee,
> and has a variety of disciplinary actions that they can take, up to
> and including firing &/or suing employees who violate their security
> policies.  At a school, the institution has much less control over the
> students.  Expulsions for hacking are close to unheard of, although I
> suspect that some will occur soon.

A college student here (at a community college) was recently convicted
of computer fraud (class 6 felony) for breaking into the school computer
(a rather unsecured VAX).  Utimately he was expelled from that school
and is currently on probation.
-- 
Tom Brink
Technical Support Specialist
Arizona Department of Transportation
tom @
 dot .
 state .
 az .
 us

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