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Subject: Re: Allowing Magic Kingdom Access.
From: "Mark R. Ludwig" <Mark-Ludwig @ uai . com>
Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 10:52:27 -0700
To: pauld @ pyramid . com (Paul Daw)
Cc: firewalls @ greatcircle . com
In-reply-to: <9405241504 . AA11084 @ sword . eng . pyramid . com> from "Paul Daw" on Tue, 24 May 1994 08:04:53 PDT.

>>>>> On Tue, 24 May 94 08:04:53 -0700, pauld @
 pyramid .
 com (Paul Daw) said:

|> Brent's suggestion was to go ahead and allow this (i.e. enable the specific
|> IP address from the internet to get through the wrapper to telnetd,) using
|> a one time password, smart card or challenge response system to protect the
|> family jewels.  This seems like a good first step, but after sitting around
|> drinking beer and eating pizza with the other security paranoids in the
|> sysadm group here, we saw a second potential problem. 
|>
|> Since these people are at customer sites, there is a real potential for
|> local eavesdropping.  While the one-time-password scheme protects the
|> firewall from intrusion, it doesn't protect all of the internal
|> machines that the user might log into once he is on the gateway, and
|> those passwords will still be sent in the clear.  The Internet gateway
|> isn't the only way in, and there is a possibility that the passwords
|> used on internal machines might also be used on modem servers and the
|> like.

I haven't heard anything about putting S/Key together with Kerberos,
yet, so perhaps it's either not possible or unwise, but that would do
it.  Give the next key in sequence to authenticate your Kerberos
identity.$$
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