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Subject: Re: Hacker Site List?
From: "Vegsund, Richard" <MISRHV @ infosvcs . tmh . tmc . edu>
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 94 08:00:00 CDT
To: firewalls-owner <firewalls-owner @ GreatCircle . COM>, firewalls <firewalls @ GreatCircle . COM>
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OK, I think both McCarthy and the Clintons would be very proud of all the 
rules suggested to control and track the masses.  One thing is for sure.  If 
this list is created with all the fancy, uninforcible rules, then the hacker 
will just break into a primary network before breaking into yours.  Remember 
the sniffer posting from CERN several weeks ago and all of the sites that 
had been considered compromised, WELL, well, this the sniffer deamon was on 
a ????.net network, do you disallow this address.  OH BOY!  I am deleteing 
all the rest of the mail I have gotten on this issue, because its not 
security, its a witch hunt.
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From: firewalls-owner
To: firewalls
Subject: Re: Hacker Site List?
Date: Thursday, August 25, 1994 6:33AM


The Hack List sounds like a good idea,
  I would feel BEFORE a site is listed

        1a.) the Site Admin be contacted.
        1b.) a Capture be provided which shows the attempt

   The listing should

        2a.) use verbage statement should read something like...
             "The following abnormal activitiy was noticed....."

        2b.) avoid statements like REMOVE, DENY, HACKER

        2c.) allow the Site Admin 48-72 hrs before posting

OR

We could just post Items 1b, 2a, 2b and cc: the Site/System Admin


But whatever we do, it should be a seperate NEWS/Listsrv feed
or we could check with CERT/CIAC about  managing the info


J. Kida

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