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Subject: Livingston vs MorningStar routers
From: Richard Huddleston <reh @ wam . umd . edu>
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 14:11:28 -0400
To: firewalls @ greatcircle . com
Cc: bob @ morningstar . com

God forgive me for opening the doors to a Firewalls opinionfest.

Please, please, please, please, please: reply to me directly via
email, and I'll post a summary.  You won't miss anything, I promise,
except a bunch of e-mail. 

I need to hear from folks who actually build firewalls (you know
who you are) regarding any experience they may have with the 
Livingston "FireWall IRX" and/or MorningStar Express Plus routers.

I'm putting another firewall together, and normally use a Cisco on
all sides--but I'm constrained this time to just those two choices
on the external router. 

I've used an earlier model of the MSE, and while I found its filtering
and logging facilities to excellent (ICMP by type, etc.) I'll also say 
it seemed to choke on a Switched 56 Frame Relay data link.  I'll head 
off any potential flamage and just say I couldn't figure out how to get 
it to work with 95% + reliability.

The MSE+ is said to be improved immensely, and I'm certainly willing 
to give it a shot.

I know nothing about Livingston except that, as I recall, Brent likes 'em.

Informed opinion welcomed.  I've invited MorningStar in on this, as well,
since I'm not sure if they normally pick up this list.

Richard



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