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Subject: Re: dns behind firewall
From: lazear @ dockside . mitre . org
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 95 12:50:17 -0500
To: Leo Willems <leo @ tunix . kun . nl>
Cc: bind @ uunet . uu . net, socks @ syl . dl . nec . com, firewalls @ greatcircle . com, lazear @ dockside . mitre . org
In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 13 Jan 95 22:19:25 +0100." <199501132119 . WAA20817 @ gammix . tunix . kun . nl>

In a recent project requiring a firewall, my team decided on the
split DNS approach.  We have a wildcard and single MX on the outside
and a full database on the inside, with "forwarder" interaction
between the two.  All resolvers (firewall and backside hosts) point
to the inside DNS server.

Philosophical:

	Our main goal was to give people flexibility to enforce
	different levels of paranoia and security policies, while
	providing a common implementation across numerous sites.

	Even though we told sites that they should not name systems
	with any sensitive or revealing words, some people just like to do
	that.  We explained all the ways host names show up in headers
	even if you hide the names via DNS, but there was a "feeling"
	that removing them from the external view of the DNS database
	would be more comfortable.  Here was an example of no good
	technical reason, but a level of intangible comfort.

Technical:

	We wanted to allow the site behind the firewall the freedom
	to deliver email using DNS.  That is, we did not want to limit
	their choice of resolution method.  Some sites have kept all 
	mail on a single server (ignoring MX records), while others 
	have used non-SMTP to distribute email behind the firewall.
	Others actually use the inside set of MX records to deliver.
	This was exactly the range of choices we wanted to offer.

	For debugging (connectivity to other sites), you want to have 
	full name resolution available to you.  This may not have to be
	from a backside host and may not be needed by normal users, but
	for sysadmins, it's a necessity (IMHO).  You can call this
	philosophical or "soft" technical if you wish.

Thoughts about *not* using the split DNS:

	If your backside hosts did not care to use DNS at all, you
	probably could get away with an extremely simple DNS database
	and server on the firewall.  All resolvers would point to the
	firewall.  Of course, you'd have to create some equivalent to
	a host table for backside hosts to use to contact each other.


	Walt


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