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Subject: Testing firewalls
From: proberts @ moc1 . gannett . com
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 95 08:59:42 -0500
To: "firewalls%greatcircle . com @ theopolis"@uvs1.dnet.mmc.com, firewalls-owner @ greatcircle . com, ("Wright, Robert" <rwright @ moc1 . gannett . com>)

>Date: Mon, 30 Jan 95 12:56:20 -0500
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>From: padgett @
 tccslr .
 dnet .
 mmc .
 com (A. Padgett Peterson, P.E. Information
>    Security)
>To: "firewalls%greatcircle .
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>Subject: Testing firewalls
>Sender: firewalls-owner @
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>Dr. Frederick B. Cohen wrote...
>>       One of the things I don't hear much about in this forum is
>> people testing their firewalls.  [...]
>
>One of the big problems here is "where do you test it from ?" If done from
>the inside, you do not test any rules that say "my nodes are ok but not..."
>however since most people have only one or two POPs (using Points of
>Presence in its most literal meaning here), this is a real problem.

Not quite sure what you mean here.  Testing inside, on a test network with
a screening router, etc. is IMHO a good thing[tm].  First of all, it gives
you the ability to attack with much more bandwidth than most A-6s would get
coming in from outside your site, giving you a leg up on some DOS attacks
to base TCP or UDP services (echo, daytime ...).

>
>As a consequence, a proper functionality test must be done from a remote
>site that allows such things to be done (a good firewall won't). One
>possibility would be to arrange for a node at your service provider's
>site, another might be a local university (for a real real-world test).
>

If you're really pressed, set-up fee, phone time, etc. won't be more
than US$50 (in most major US cities) to get a dial-up PPP account with either
a local or national ISP for 30 days, from which you can attack at will.

Anyway, it's always a good idea to have a second POP, just in case your
primary goes down...
Not quite as important as ensuring your phone system has Foreign Exchange
capability, but the same concept.

[snip]
>                                        Warmly,
>                                                Padgett

Paul.





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