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Subject: Re: individual ftp accounts from the dirty net
From: sdw @ lig . net (Stephen D. Williams)
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 01:24:23 +0000 (GMT)
To: brian @ imcon . ilinx . com
Cc: firewalls @ GreatCircle . COM
In-reply-to: <m0rbIWC-0003DIC @ ilinx . com> from "brian @ imcon . ilinx . com" at Feb 5, 95 05:45:14 pm

> 
> I've got a bit of a dilema.  I have to set up non-anonymous ftp for an
> organization.  The basic structure is that this organization wants to set
> up ftp accounts so that selected people can retreive information via the
> 'net.  The requirements of any one individual are that (a) they can store
> and retreive files (b) the files be removed once they have retreived them
...
> --
> Brian J. Murrell                                               brian @
 ilinx .
 com
> InterLinx Support Services, Inc.                              brian @
 wimsey .
 com
> North Vancouver, B.C.                                             604 983 UNIX
>         Platform and Brand Independent UNIX Support - R3.2 - R4 - BSD

Can't this be solved by the more or less standard 'secret' structure:

You put a directory in the anon ftp area with permissions: 

+x -r (+-w).

+x allows traversal by the os, but -r disallows anyone but root from reading
the directory.  Allow +w if you want outside users to be able to write files
or create directories. In the -w scenario you could make a directory for
each user and allow +w for that.

To make this work, you just suggest/insist/enforce/assign unguessable filenames
and directory names under secret.  Assuming sufficiently long filenames,
this gives good security.

You can even setup a root process to purge old stuff.

I'm working on a system where a user wants to upload info to a web server
and having a program assign temp directories this way looks much easier
than managing ftp accounts, etc.

Does anyone have solid problems with this or a better method?

sdw
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