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Subject: Re: Windows NT
From: Dave Hodgkinson <daveh @ dhcs . demon . co . uk>
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 22:22:16 GMT
To: george @ neato . org
Cc: firewalls @ greatcircle . com
Reply-to: daveh @ dhcs . demon . co . uk

In message <199502241911 .
 LAA19173 @
 wicked .
 neato .
 org> George Mullins writes:
 
> Check again.  A large amount of Internet traffic is actually routed
> using SUN machines as routers.

Never said it wasn't. And I suggest that people will want to use
what is to them a better known system than this arcane academic
Unix thing.

> But traceroute does no a router make.  How about gated, routed,
> mrouted?  Are they there?

Got me. I'm fifty miles and nine days away from my Alpha.

>  > So what? Least privilege.
> 
> And least performance!

I'd say performance is not the top priority for a firewall - security
is.

> Oh goody a single implementation of something.  That will take the
> market by storm.


Emwac have their HTTPD, Bob Denny's done the WinHttpd for NT...hell, 
even X11R6 and emacs run on NT. To me, that's flexible.


> 
> At least it has been tested in the real world moving "billions and
> billions" of packets.

And holes are still being found in it. Or it's configuration. Or
it's applications.

[Hmmm, sounds like a Carl Sagan programme: "billions and billions
of packets ago, in the primordial soup of the internet..."]

> 
> We don't have to prepare for NT as a firewall, we do have to prepare
> for NT and Chicago and huge number of netsurfers they will bring.

I think we will need to do both. PC sites will want something
around that they're familiar with and if a reasonably configured
NT box can be dual homed, run a proxy and handle mail then
they'll be happy. Oh yeah. And turn off source routing too :-)

Dave


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