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Subject: RE: Outgoing ftp and filters
From: Ron A Lindsay <ronl @ earth . eng . vantageware . com>
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 95 06:00:30 PDT
To: firewalls @ greatcircle . com, cisco @ spot . colorado . edu, dfci . harvard . edu!ellozy @ sam . wal-mart . com

I attempted to close TCP ports >1023.  I was then unable to receive mail via SMTP.  SMTP was
unable to get a backchannel to send incoming mail. I was lead to believe that the backchannel
was dynamically determined and was ALWAYS >1023.

Outgoing mail was unaffected.
---------------Original Message---------------
This is an extract from a program on ftp.cisco.com to generate access
lists, summarizing the problem with outgoing ftp:

#
# Permit TCP connections with port numbers greater than 1024
# into a very limited set of hosts.  Make sure NO terminal servers
# are in this list because this allows dangerous access to terminal
# servers and protocol translators.
#
# This is so that people can FTP out of cisco without using pftp
# (available from ftp.cisco.com).  We now use passive-ftp everywhere
# and no longer need to permit this.  This is the *ONLY* reason to allow
# inbound TCP >1023 so don't let anyone give you shit for closing this
# hole.
# 
# This is a serious major gaping security hole and should be denied 
# except known secure machines.  The 'established' keyword earlier on
# handles everything outbound but outbound FTP, so that is the ONLY
# reason we should allow this.
#

Passive ftp is available for UNIX computers in source form, but what
about its availability on other platforms (Macs and PCs running ftp
software tcp/ip)?  Also, how widely do the "main" public ftp servers
support it?

Thanks.

Mohamed

{original message deleted}
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E-mail: ronl @
 vantageware .
 com (Ron A Lindsay)
Date: 04/06/95
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