> To put bluntly, I'm not interested, and I won't subscribe (even though
> I reserve the right to ask questions to the list :-) unless you manage
> both to reach a critical mass within say 2 months (I think 1000 subscribers
> is a minimum to keep things lively)
Maybe 1000 is a bit optimistic, but I agree; I wouldn't like to loose my time
setting up a dead mailing list. I hope to get enough feedback in the next
days to take the appropriate decision.
> and to get people of a level similar to
> mjr, smb, Warmly, Brent (in no particular order - apologies to those who
> should have been included, or think so.)
This is in fact a problem, and if you don't subscribe, we'll loose a French
firewall expert :-)
> And before you ask, yes, I'm French, and I enjoy speaking, hearing,
> reading and writing French, and I don't care much for mangled English
> (no more than I do for mangled French ...)
Well, I'm not sure this is exactly the point: many people who speak french
aren't willing to browse english lists as huge as Firewalls or Bugtraq. Others,
while perfectly understanding what is written, have some difficulties to
express their ideas in english. For example, this reply took me at least twice
as much time as it would in French, while probably horrible ;-)
This could be also a way to provide a kind of load-balancing between the
"real" list, to which most of us will still subscribe because it's our job,
and "local" lists, where more pragmatic or country-specific issues could be
discussed. I can see a very good example of this: the French WWW list.
> There's an item in your charter, though, that I'm not sure is covered
> in firewalls : namely, discussion of country-specific firewalls/security
> issues. I didn't see any discussion of this, and I'm not sure whether
> the firewalls charter says anything about it (Brent ?). But I don't
> think this is enough to justify YAML (yet another mailing list).
This point seems in fact to interest some people, and not only from France
(Quebec at least). And yes (this is to answer someone else), there are some
"regional" security issues: IP providers policies, for example.
Now, I believe that we're going off-topic of this list. Many people have yet
replied privately, giving very good suggestions, and I'll stay collecting
answers for a while before taking a decision. At least, if the list is
created, I'm sure that we'll have a huge thread about refining its charter ;-)
Thanks,
-JCT-
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