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Subject: Re: Firewall failure modes (was Re: performance)
From: "Frank Byrum" <byrum @ vbv . dec . com>
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 95 11:25:46 -0400
To: firewalls @ greatcircle . com
Cc: isdmill @ gatekeeper . ddp . state . me . us (David Miller), peter @ nmti . com, fc @ all . net, mjr @ tis . com, byrum @ vbv . dec . com . byrum
In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 26 Apr 95 03:19:35 EDT."

Marcus writes:

>...function points. The discussion has gotten dragged a bit off
>base because testing is a great issue to engage in vendor-bashing
>over. Since it's axiomatic that no amount of testing is ever
Agreed!

>enough, then it's always easy to point your finger and say
>"you should test more."  It's interesting that I'm the only
Agreed!

>representative from a firewall vendor that has touched the
>discussion. :) You'd think that people would be *impressed*
Not really.  I am usually a day or so behind on this list, but I do get
in responses.  And I have noticed reponses from others in my group.

>by the fact that our source code has been published and reviewed
>by all the experts and hackers out there, including our competition.
>You'd think people would be *impressed* by the fact that we have
>published our design criteria and how/why we do what we do. Ask
>the other guys what goes on inside their black boxes and they'll
>tell you "trust us."

No, we still include our source code, but you can not anonymous ftp it 
from anywhere freely. 


Frank

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