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Subject: Re: Secure Modem Pool
From: lars @ RNS . COM (Lars Poulsen)
Organization: Rockwell International - CMC Network Products
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 95 08:56:29 PDT
To: fvadmin @ sgf . fv . com
Cc: firewalls @ greatcircle . com
In-reply-to: <Pine . 3 . 89 . 9504251839 . A3178-0100000 @ sgf . fv . com>
Newsgroups: list.firewalls

>> Generally, these kind of attacks work like this: a person trying to
>> break in dials up the modem, and then simulates a hangup noise and
>> dialtone WITHOUT ACTUALLY HANGING UP.  The dialback modem thinks the
>> line has hung up, picks up the line, dials, and waits for a carrier.
>> The person supplies a carrier, and viola, connects to the system.

In article <Pine .
 3 .
 89 .
 9504251839 .
 A3178-0100000 @
 sgf .
 fv .
 com> you write:
>Well, that's just *broken*.  Either that, or it's from the way-back days 
>when the callee couldn't hang up on a call if the caller stayed off 
>hook.  Nowadays, there's no possible reason why a callback modem wouldn't 
>just hang up the line itself before picking up, listening for dial-tone, 
>and dialing.

The normal behaviour of a local telephone switch is to disconnect
the call within a second if the CALLER hangs up, but to allow the 
CALLEE to disconnect temporarily for 15-30 seconds without
terminating the call. This allows a person to move to a different
phone without having to run back and forth between, say, the kitchen
and a bedroom.

So when the callback modem "just hangs up the line itself before picking
up" it would have to stay on-hook for at least 35 seconds. (The exact
time is a programmable parameter on the central office switch, and
some telcos may have set it even higher.)

There are some ways around the problem:

1) Implement the callback not in the modem, but in the access server
   behind the modem, and use a different line for the outcall.
2) Get 3-way calling on the line, and FLASH before starting the outdial.
-- 
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