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Subject: Re: Secure Modem Pool
From: Rens Troost <rens @ imsi . com>
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 23:55:17 -0400
To: ari @ soscorp . com (Ari Shamash)
Cc: firewalls @ greatcircle . com, rens @ lorax . imsi . com
Reply-to: rens @ imsi . com

Hi Ari! How's it going? Long time no see.



>>>> ari @
 soscorp .
 com (Ari Shamash) Said:

  Ari> Regular POTS lines do not have any sort of out-of-band
  Ari> signaling to determine when the phone line has actually hung up
  Ari> (unlike ISDN, for example).  The only way a modem can know that
  Ari> it really hung up the line is by getting a dialtone, which can

Yeah, this is a real problem with dialback systems. I use separate
modems for inbound and outbound traffic; the user authenticates to the
dialback system on a wholly separate line than she is called back
on. The dialout modems are on lines that are callout-only (NYNEX
supplies these) and further are on a Microcom HDMS chassis that does a
nice job of screaming when it sees RING activity on lines marked for
dialout.

As pointed out previously in this thread, though, all dialback systems
are vulnerable to social engineering; just convince the phone company
to call-forward a trusted number. 

Might it be possible to use Caller ID to detect such an attack?

-Rens


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