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Subject: Re: Secure-ID & NTP vulerabilities
From: Phil Hands <phil @ hands . com>
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 1995 10:51:14 +0200
To: "Thomas V. Myers" <tvmyers @ icdc . delcoelect . com>
Cc: Hal Lockhart <hal @ locus . com>, amoss @ cs . huji . ac . il, firewalls @ greatcircle . com
In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 31 Jul 1995 20:15:50 EDT." <199508010115 . VAA08957 @ koicdu24 . icdc . delcoelect . com>

tvmyers @
 icdc .
 delcoelect .
 com said:
> It would seem especially far fetched in light of the number of 
> amateur radio (HAM) operators who could pinpoint the location of the 
> 'bogus' transmitter in a few hours (or less) and would probably enjoy 
> doing it!  The FCC could do the same job, of course! ;-)  A 
> transmitter strong enough to completely mask the real signal would 
> show up like a search light at midnight to any reasonably competent 
> triangulation team. 

Let's say you have the aerial for your time receiver on the roof of
your 10 story office building.  If I can get a transmitter within 3
meters of your aerial, then at ground level (30 meters away) the
signal strength will be 1/100 that required to beat the real time
signal --- this is likely to be getting towards the level of
background noise (i.e. becoming un-detectable).  You could probably
make the transmitter the size of a cigarette packet (trailing a wire
as an aerial), and catapult it onto the roof.

Alternatively, a van in the car park, with a directional aerial pointed
up at the receiver would probably also be fairly un-detectable.

The details are a bit vague, but you can see what I'm getting at --- I
don't think that you can blithely assume that it is impossible to do
this unnoticed.

Cheers, Phil.


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