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Subject: Re: Comments on a hacked server/page
From: bissonjk @ tiac . net (Jack K. Bisson)
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 00:42:50 -0400
To: "Roy L. Beasley" <royb @ access . digex . net>
Cc: webserver-nt @ DELTA . PROCESS . COM, firewalls @ greatcircle . com

        Is someone trying to give NT a bad name to slow down its
unbelievable acceptance as an application server. Thats what this sounds
like to me, and what about a CERN server running on NT. Does CERN even run
on NT? I know there are https servers for NT that are based on CERN, but
CERN ????

>Rich,
>
>Let me admit up front that I am highly skeptical that an NT server could 
>be "compromised" in the manner you describe.  However, as the 
>administrator of four Web sites, all running NT server, I feel it would 
>be irresponsible for me to dismiss your claim without further 
>investigation.  We all know that UNIX is full of holes which are 
>regularly breached by 'wiley hackers' from time to time.  Indeed, the 
>last time I looked at the security problems detected by the good folks at 
>Carnegie-Mellon, all such problems related to UNIX servers.  
>
>So at the risk of being totally embarrassed by my ignorance or blind 
>faith in the Microsoft's propaganda, I would greatly appreciate your 
>providing me with some documentation of this successful breach of NT's 
>security.  As far as I know, the only way this could happen is if one of 
>the NT administrators did something incredibly dumb -- like exposing his 
>password to the whole world via FTP, or RASing in with no encryption 
>required, etc.  If I'm wrong, I will be embarrassed but will learn an 
>extremely valuable lesson ... :-(
>
>Regards,
>Roy B.
>
>On Sun, 17 Sep 1995, Rich wrote:
>
>>     Thought I would throw this out for a bit of discussion...
>> 
>> Recently, a friend of mine who runs a IAP/ISP company (about 600 customers
>> so far) was 'compromised' on an NT server for his home page.  (I did NOT set
>> up his security/firewall, otherwise this would not have happened :-)  )
>> 
>> At anyrate, the jist of it was his home page was "altered" through a
whole in 
>> the cern server which ran on the outside.  What was altered??  The prices for
>> access to his services!!!!!
>> 
>> This might have gone on "undetected" for quite some time, however, he had to
>> make a change to the page due to an AREA code change (sometimes the phone
>> company can provide a real use) and he pulled the old one up to edit.  He
then
>> noticed that the prices had been increased by $20-30 per month for dialup
access
>> and by almost $50 for isdn and I won't even mention the leased line
prices, but
>> they were HIGH!
>> 
>> What are the odds that the author checks all his/her pages often enough
to catch
>> something like this, and this brings to light a question....
>> 
>> How can you protect yourself from "altered" information?  I mean what if
someone
>> had changed his page to load pornographic images or slanderous comments?
Who is
>> responsible?  A tough call I know.  
>> 
>> I am now checking my home pages at least weekly! (ALL OF THEM!)
>> cheers....
>> Rich Fitzgerald
>> 
>> p.s.  the hole in the cern server is now plugged... (we hope)
>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>> ** Remember -- Life is NOT a dress rehearsal!
>>     (nor is it a small furry animal with funny feet and floppy ears...)
>> 
>> 
>
>



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