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Subject: Risk metric
From: John_Reinke_at_NYTRP @ pcmailgw . ml . com
Date: Wed, 01 Nov 95 08:22:17 est
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>Author:  Adam Jack <ajack @
 corp .
 micrognosis .
 com> at UNIXGTWY
>Date:    11/1/95 9:04 AM

> safe. Compared to Work Macros in e-mail - safe. Compared to FTP
> - unsafe. But where in that range does it sit?
>> Or proposals for rapid response certification bodies.
> I made the term up on the spot - so no suprizes. My point was that these
> individuals were already occupied and unlikely to be in a position to
 
Adam makes an interesting case for a risk metric.  Different 
industries may wish to be at different points on the risk reward 
curve.  If the metric was probability of a loss greater than $100,000, 
then I could see brokerages taking more risk than a bank.  

The difficulty is assessing the a priori probabilities.  Opponents of 
any expenditure for security usually argue from "posterior" statistics 
(i.e., it hasn't happened; therefore it can't happen).  When the 
breech occurs, as it always does sooner or later usually sooner rather 
than later, the security officer is taken to task <again> for not 
presenting forceful enough arguments.  So once again, you are damned 
if you fight hard with the label "doesn't understand" and damned again 
when the loss occurs with "unable to express the arguments for the 
position".  

Perhaps, risk metrics are a valid way to express it.  What would be 
the appropriate measurement applying this concept to firewalls.  <See 
Brent, you knew I'd get it back to the topic!>  Mean time to failure, 
Estimated dollars lost, ... ?


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