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Subject: Re: PC vs Workstation Firewall
From: "Johnson-Bryden, Ian" <IJB @ saicuk . co . uk>
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 95 11:14:00 GMT
To: "'firewalls @ greatcircle . com'" <firewalls @ greatcircle . com>
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There is another issue. Intel/Intel clone based products come in all shapes 
and sizes but mostly are designed for minimum buy price and maximum volume 
sale. That means they tend to a lot of 'value engineering' which for some 
vendors means "if the customers wont notice how about taking this 
functionality out and not telling them". Even the best vendors arent that 
good at advising of planned changes to design.  All of this can be a real 
problem for any secure or mission critical system like a firewall and can 
cause a lot of grief for the PBC (poor bloody customer).

Folk like Sun tend to be much better at telling folk about planned changes 
and documenting what they have done. They arent perfect but they are usualy 
better. Some Intel vendors would say thats just because they dont shift much 
tin, but if they offer a better product/service, who cares what the reason 
is. Anyway lower volume sales can be explained in many ways. It can simply 
be that there are fewer wise buyers out there and lots of people who dont 
know any better than to buy cheapest product.
Ian J-B
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From: firewalls-owner
To: Mike.Jones
Cc: firewalls
Subject: Re: PC vs Workstation Firewall
Date: Thursday, November 02, 1995 1:49PM

My mailer thinks Mike Jonesa said:
>
        [chomp]
>
> Actually, I think there's another issue to consider. If you get, for
> example, a firewall that runs on a Sun, you can purchase maintenance
> for it. That means that if you lose a disk at 2am in a snowstorm in the
> middle of January, the *Sun* guy gets to come out and replace the disk
> within 4 hours. Sure beats playing with PC hardware for my dollar. The
> same is true of HP, SGI, IBM, etc., of course.
>
Actually, the amount you pay in maintenance could probably be put into
buying spares for everything. This would alleviate the Sun Engineer from
having to come out - only you would need to go out. After all you were
there to let him into the building and onto the bastion, weren't you?

:-)

Colin

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