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Subject: re: tokens
From: "A. Padgett Peterson, P.E. Information Security" <PADGETT @ hobbes . orl . mmc . com>
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 12:12:45 -0500 (EST)
To: firewalls @ greatcircle . com

1) I believe that the major token venders all use reasonablty secure
   algorithms and proper separation of serialnumbers from seeds.

2) Having said that, I also belive that current uses only authenticate
   users to hosts (or men-in-the-middle) and do not provide any host
   authentication (could, just don't). Even then are still suceptable
   to MITM and hijacked sessions.

3) This could be eliminated by never passing the response over the net,
   instead using it as a seed for creation of a secure channel. By the
   ability to communicate both ends would be authenticated to each other.
   - Since the response is never sent, MITM attacks would fail.
   - Since the channel is secure, hijack attacks would fail

4) Given "soft tokens", all the mechanics could be transparent to the
   user, both types would simply require entry of a PIN.

5) Since Time Synchronous tokens must operate in a "window" to accomodate
   drift, they are at a disadvantage to Challenge/Response tokens. Not
   an insurmountable problem - could try all possible codes in the window or 
   revert to C/R - but a significant one. 

(Think my earlier comment on this was truncated).

						Warmly,
							Padgett

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