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Subject: Re: A Practical Question
From: "Johnson-Bryden, Ian" <IJB @ saicuk . co . uk>
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 95 22:13:00 GMT
To: "'firewalls @ greatcircle . com'" <firewalls @ greatcircle . com>


From: firewalls-owner
To: firewalls
Subject: A Practical Question
Date: Friday, November 24, 1995 12:00AM

>Ken Smith wrote::

>I barely have time to catch my morning coffee, much less
>try to review the last 24-hours of dial-in logs.

Well maybe some folk miss the morning coffee, but I doubt anyone reviews the 
last 24 hrs of dail in logs every day unless the traffic is *very* low.

>I understand that a number of people on this list are security 
professionals
>rather than network managers, but I'd like to hear from those who *are*
>responsible for the day-to-day administration of small-to-medium-size
>networks.  How realistic is it for network managers to be able to take the
>sort
>of labor-intensive security steps that are advocated here?  In addition, 
how
>*necessary* is it?

There is the other question of - should the network manager be security 
also? In many countries, banks dont expect their counter clerks to operate 
with shotguns, they hire armed guards. Those same institutions however often 
leave their systems manager or network manager to do the equivalent job on 
the information system. Very frequently thats the fault of the manager, or 
the man who did the job before, because he never explained the requirements 
to the senior management. In some cases, he deliberately tried to conceal 
the realities from management either because he wanted to stay employed or 
just didnt welcome what might prove to be 'competition'.

In a well regulated system there should be a system administrator, a network 
administrator, and a security officer which has two main virtues. One is 
that it avoids anyone being overloaded and neglecting a vital area. The 
second is that each guard guards the other two. Take the old Czech joke 
about the secret police going round in threes - one is to read, one is to 
write, one is to keep an eye one the dangerous intellectuals.


>If I'm not able to dedicate these sorts of resources, how
>big a hole am I opening up for myself?

It could be enormous. A 200 yr old financial institution was destroyed by 
the actions of a relatively junior employee because their risk management 
system was inadequate - and yes they did have a firewall.

I'm well aware that if somebody
>really
>*wanted* to break into our network, they could (there are a thousand ways;
>the
>Internet is the least of my concerns, frankly): I'm more concerned about 
how
>likely it is that they *will*.

Thats a key question which you can only hope to answer if you have a real 
enterprise policy with associated risk policy, a method of enforcing same, 
continuous review of same.
Ian J-B

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