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Subject: Re: A1 Systems?
From: Sten Drescher <dreschs @ mpd . tandem . com>
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 08:03:14 -0600 (CST)
To: <firewalls @ GreatCircle . COM>
Cc: spencerj @ dg-rtp . dg . com, mjr @ iwi . com
Cc: mjr @ iwi . com
In-reply-to: "Marcus J. Ranum"'s message of Thu, 30 Nov 1995 18:09:36 -0500 (EST)
References: <199511301818 . SAA06837 @ splinter> <199511302309 . SAA04333 @ switchblade . iwi . com>

"Marcus J. Ranum" <mjr @
 iwi .
 com> said:

>> Now, to the Orange Book.  The poster focused on features, but that is
>> NOT the focus of the OB.  The focus of the OB is ASSURANCE

MJR> [...]

>> However, I will be happy to discuss any supposed "irrelevance" of OB
>> or ITSEC requirements to the commercial world.

MJR> 	There's no need to -- you already explained (more tersely than I
MJR> did) the problem with the orange book earlier on in your comments.

MJR> 	It's not about features, it's about assurance.

	Assurance that the features work.

MJR> Commercial computing is about features (represented as
MJR> functionality) Therefore orange book is irrelevant to commercial
MJR> computing.

#ifdef HOLYWAR

	Given the success of Microsoft with Windows, you must be right.
In commercial computing, it doesn't matter if the features work
properly, just that there is an assertion that the features are there,
and will work Real Soon Now.

#endif /* HOLYWAR */

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