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Subject: Firewalls-Digest V5 #8 -Reply
From: DARRYL PANG <DPANG @ QUEENS . HAWAII . ORG>
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 1996 07:56:01 -1000
To: Firewalls @ GreatCircle . COM

FYI gang.  And "NO" we are NEVER going to use
FreeBSD!!


          Mahalo, DPP.     \m/ ^_^ \m/

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Firewalls-Digest          Saturday, 6 January 1996      Volume
05 : Number 008

In this issue:

	SSL and S-HTTP Proxy support
	Re: Security managing Cisco Routers
	Re: SSL and S-HTTP Proxy support
	Steps in building a firewall, Right or Wrong?

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From: cbk @
 ingress .
 com (Charles B. Kaplan)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 23:21:13 -0500
Subject: SSL and S-HTTP Proxy support

>From what I remember S-HTTP can be fully negotiated
within the 'standard'
HTTP ports/protocol.  Therefor any proxy supporting HTTP
should work with
S-HTTP.

Next, while SSL COULD be implimented accross multiple
protocols, etc, the
'only' wide spread use presentally is via netscape, and that
makes use of port 443 'normally'.

The BorderWare Firewall Server, from BNTI out of the box
proxys port 80,
8001, 8080, and 443, all when its WWW proxy is enabled.  

I don't see why however you couldn't say use plug-gw on
port 443  to do the same types of things.  NOTE however,
putting your web server inside your firewall, and then
proxying to it is a BIG risk.  That ofcourse is why
BorderWare provides a 3'rd network interface for 'secured
servers'.  Well, enough plugging of BorderWare....if you
didn't guess I resell it.

Anyone care to either veryify or correct the above S-HTTP
notes ?


- -Charles Kaplan

for more information on BorderWare call 800-254-7159


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From: Bill Husler <bhusler @
 community .
 net>
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 20:22:58 -0800
Subject: Re: Security managing Cisco Routers

>>>At 02:15 PM 12/27/95 GMT, Pietro wrote:
>>>
>>>>My actual problem is to managed several Cisco
Routers situated
>>>>on a public network from a central site, from where there
is no
>>>>way to garantee secure communication.
>>>>
>
>>I have heard that Firewall-1 will manage the configurations
of CISCO  >>routers remotely. I believe the way it works is
that you set up the  >>configuration or a Firewall-1
Administrative Workstations and it send  >>some sort of
encrypted/secured transmission to the router to downlowd
the  >>new config.
>>Bill
>>
>
>Although I'm not intimately familiar with the internal
mechanisms of
>Firewall-1, I do have a problem with the above paragraph,
since we
>do not (yet) support encrypted transport mechanisms.  :-)
>
>- paul
>
>--
>Paul Ferguson                                           ||        ||
>Consulting Engineering                                  ||        ||
>Reston, Virginia   USA                                 ||||      ||||
>tel: +1.703.716.9538                               ..:||||||:..:||||||:..
>e-mail: pferguso @
 cisco .
 com                         c i s c o S y s t e
m s
>
>
Paul,
  Your absolutely right! I talked to our Firewall-1 dudes
(actually SUN)  and they said that communication is in the
clear. I don't know what I  heard that made me believe
otherwise. Sorry if I muddied the waters. I  also asked them
to describe why we should have "warm fuzzies" that the 
changes being made to the router configuration are indeed
being sent from  the FW-1 admin and not some admin
wannabe. I will post their response.
Bill

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From: Bill Husler <bhusler @
 community .
 net>
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 20:46:16 -0800
Subject: Re: SSL and S-HTTP Proxy support

>From:        Brian W. McKenney,
mckenney @
 smiley .
 mitre .
 org
>
>I would like to have an update as to which commercial
firewall vendors
>support or plan to support (when) an SSL and/or S-HTTP
proxy.  I will post
>a summary.
>
>This is the information that I have:
>
>1. TIS Gauntlet:  SSL annd S-HTTP proxies in next release.
>2.  KarlBridge/KarlBrouter:  S-HTTP proxy
>3.  Milkyway Blackhole:  S--HTTP
>4.  SOS Brimstone:   S-HTTP proxy
>5.  Technologic Interceptor:  S-HTTP proxy
>6.  V-One SmartWall:  S-HTTP proxy
>
>License versions of TIS Gauntlet will support whatever the
next Gauntlet
>release supports.
>
You can add ANS Interlock to you list.
Bill

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From: bart @
 pu .
 com (Bart Rivard)
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 1996 01:49:18 -0600
Subject: Steps in building a firewall, Right or Wrong?

Hi,

I think one of the things about building a firewall that has
surprised me is how really simple it really is.  It makes me
wonder if I have done  something wrong.  Many people say
use the TIS toolkit but I really don't see any reason.  Here is
the steps I have taken tell me what you think.

1) Installed FreeBSD on a Pentium 100 with 32 MB of Ram
and two Ethernet NICs

2) Configured the Kernel such that IP forwarding and Source
routing are 
   disabled.

3) Deleted all accounts on the system except root

4) Gave root a password with number, letters, uppercase
and lowercase, 10 long

5) Deleted everything out of inetd.conf except DNS

6) Configured DNS so that the only machine it knows about
is a Web server
   which is in the DMZ and the firewall machine and wildcard
MX record.

7) Configured resolv.conf on firewall to point to the internal
network DNS.

8) Turned off source routing on the CISCO 2500 router and
added filters 
   which disabled all UDP traffic except port DNS/53, all TCP
inbound traffic except SMTP to firewall, News from specific
news server to firewall
   http to web server in DMZ.  Allow all outbound TCP traffic.
   Thinking about disabling all ICMP traffic on router, what do
you think?

9) Configured CERN web server as a proxy on the firewall
using a weird port
   number.  Wrapped the port with TCP Wrappers and only
allow access from
   internal IP addresses.  Internal IP addresses are
192.168.0.0 thru
   192.168.255.255.  Wish I could limit access to web proxy by
network interface
   but don't know how?

10)Modified a mail program so that it read mail from port 25
and writes to disk 
   mail messages.  Completely dumb program.  Does not
handle distribution list,
   aliases or anything.  I then pick mail up off of disk and send
it to 
   internal CC mail gateway.  Was there shareware to do
equivalent?  Can 
   sendmail pick mail up off of disk?  Is it safe to have
sendmail pick mail
   up off of disk and distribute?  

11)Put TCP Wrapper around news server port to only
except connection from our
   news provider at AT&T and internal network.  Also use inn
access control to      limit access from internal network for
reading news and news provider for      dumping news.

Well that about it.  We provide outbound Web, Gopher, FTP
and WAIS through the CERN Proxy.  Is this safe?  We don't
allow any UDP to pass firewall.
We don't allow anything to come in from the outside through
the firewall  except mail.  The firewall doubles as a news
server so we don't allow news to pass through firewall but
the firewall doubles as a news server.  Is it safe to use a
firewall as a news server?

Please comment!!  Send all comments to bart @
 pu .
 com .
 

TIA,

Bart
 


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