heaven forbid I should defend Raptor :-) but we -- firewall people, not just
vendors -- need to encourage people to complain to their client software
vendors to stop making software that assumes plain passwords. Chameleon is
not the only one who has you load a password in before it tries to make any
If you try to connect to anywhere -- through a firewall or not -- that has a
challenge/response system for you, you are hosed.
I use QVTnet (shareware) because it gives you a window with a command line
interface. Not as cool as point and click but then I don't use plain passwords.
At 09:52 AM 3/8/96 -0500, jwright @
>I find myself in the unenviable position of having to support a Raptor
>firewall. I am having nothing but problems with the crazy thing and all that I
>can say is that I am glad I wasn't involved in the purchase decision.
>Has anyone gotten Chameleon Netmanage 4.5's FTP to work through the thing with
>gateway authentication? After my previous experiences with the Raptor's tech
>support and after reading this:
>"When user authentication is being enforced at the Eagle it requires the
>the account command to exchange the users gateway password. Many windowed ftp
>clients don't provide access to this command and therefore fail when trying to
>pass through the Eagle." (from the FAQ on Raptor's web site)
>I don't think that I am going to get much help from Raptor.
>Normally, I'd recommend my client switch to a non-windowed FTP on their PC's,
>but they rolled out I don't know how many copies of Chameleon before they went
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