> I personally would not trust advice on what I should buy coming from
> someone who is trying to sell me something. Most salesmen are not
you said it, *you* personally wouldn't trust, because you probably
have enough knowledge of this topic.
but what's with people who don't?
they have to trust someone...but i don't want to go on.
this discussion is only sufficiant if there are significant differences
between modern packet filters and application level gateways.
this leads me back to the beginning of this thread...
when i began to learn about firewalls, i mostly heard packet filters
are less secure because:
1. they are hard to configure properly
assuming it's made by an expert, this shouldn't be a good argument.
2. some protocolls make problems (e.g. FTP, data channel)
with modern dynamic packet filters, this shouldn't be, too.
OTOH, the advantages of a packet filer should be:
it's the question whether this is really an advantage. but the
vendors offer proxies for the most used services, so this isn't
important for most sites.
2. performance (?!?!)
this is, IMHO, the point. nowadays, most sites are connected with
T1 lines (or ISDN in europe). for such connections, even the
slowest firewall should be fast enough. but this is the situation
of today, not of tomorrow.
i did never made any performance test, it's only my feeling which
tells me that packet filters should be faster as application level
i think transparent firewalls like gauntlet do fire off the proxy
when the (modified) kernel sees a request.
it would be very interesting to hear from someone who made a test
with a kernel build-in proxy and compared it with a fired-off
some of you (incl. myself) made suggestions, but i never saw any
or did i overlook some important point?
[perhaps i should have posted this to firewalls-performance, too, but
this list doesn't want any 'perhaps' or 'probably' and while i'm not
a technical expert, only a interested user, i didn't]
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