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Subject: Re: virus scanning for Internet
From: Scott Barman <scott @ di2 . disclosure . com>
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 16:47:25 -0500 (EST)
To: Peter da Silva <peter @ nmti . com>
Cc: peter @ nmti . com, Firewalls @ GreatCircle . COM
In-reply-to: <9603281601 . AA06592 @ sonic . nmti . com . nmti . com>

On Thu, 28 Mar 1996, Peter da Silva wrote:

> I'm sorry, I don't understand the relationship between my comment and your
> response. It reads like "I disagree" followed by agreement.
> 
> Not CCing to the list because I'd rather figure out what you thought I said
> or meant before making with public comments.
> 
OK, then let's take this step by step.  Maybe I missed something.

Someone wrote:

> > > > Is putting your web server behind your firewall I wise thing to do?
 
And you responded:

> > > An *external* web server, no.

And I said:

> > I disagree.  You can put your web server in the DMZ when that web
> > server has to interact with a database on the other side of the
> > internal firewall.

I am saying that you can put your web server behind the external
firewall and into the DMZ.  I interpret the DMZ as being behind the
firewall.  Sure we're allowing public access to it on a controlled
basis, but I do consider it behind the firewall.

Then I continued:

> >                     The internal firewall allows that one system (in
> > the DMZ) to connect to the database system via one TCP port (proxy).
> > Since everything behind the intenet firewall is RFC1597 numbered (I am
> > using a Cisco/NTI PIX) and the router is set to block those from the
> > internet side, I have no problems with this.

I am hoping to explain that if your web server has to access a database
that must be behind the firewall, then you make sure you controll access
at the internal firewall--making sure you apply all the necessary
controls.

In my mind (which could be warped! :-) the DMZ, being a controlled
access area, is behind the firewall.  Essentially I am endorsing the
"classic" architechture of:

 Intenet -- External Firewall -- (DMZ) -- Internal Firewall -- Comany Net

It's almost Friday and I need a break!  I hope that cleared things up.

scott
--
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scott @
 disclosure .
 com                      and I speak only for myself.
barman @
 ix .
 netcom .
 com

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