>I was at a seminar presented by Stuart Holoman, Holocon Inc.
>yesterday, and he said firewalls are not effective/implementable
>below the session layer:
>I don't know if he was speaking in abstract terms (e.g., not many
>people know how to make them effective).
He was probably either speaking in abstract terms, or he
didn't know what he was speaking about. "Experts" are certainly
crawling out of the woodwork these days, and it seems that the
main qualification for teaching seminars on firewalls is to FTP
my old viewgraphs from the 'net, read C&B and C&Z, and start to
make grand pronouncements. :)