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Subject: Re: Cracking NT via RAS
From: Martin Hepworth <martin @ dynasuk . co . uk>
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 09:24:46 +0100 (BST)
To: "Norton, Dave" <dnorton @ trane . com>
Cc: Firewalls-post <firewalls @ GreatCircle . COM>
In-reply-to: <199604111905 . AA13124 @ nacg . trane . com>

On Thu, 11 Apr 1996, Norton, Dave wrote:

> 
> Hi gang,
> We have a sister organization with a VPDN interconnected with
> our own with only router ACL's between 'em, filtering on "trusted"
> and "semi-trusted" IP address ranges only. Our org has limited
> security consciousness, theirs has none... They insist on putting
> Digi-boards directly on NT apppl servers, and allow remote direct
> dial access into same [...cringe :-(  ].
> 
> I imagine that war dialers and password guessing programs will
> work just as well on NT/RAS as UNIX - why not - so, if an interloper
> can gain a session on a "trusted" NT host, he/she ought to be able
> to freely island-hop over to our IP VPDN with impunity, right?
> 
> Second, without being too explicit, can someone out there tell
> me of their real tried and tested assessment as to the "swiss
> cheese" factor concerning security of the NT OS. Some of our
> "NT rocket scientists" around here persist in claiming that UNIX is
> not a secure environment, whereas NT is. I have to continually
> tell them that UNIX is much more secure(able) because we know
> where the holes in the cheese are... That we don't hear about
> NT security problems much because there hasn't been enough
> elapsed time since its birth to thoroughly probe and exploit it...

check out the ntsecurity dudes on their mailing list...

ntsecurity-request @
 iss .
 net

with "subscribe ntsecurity" in the message body
> 
> Any comments, feedback from outside my organization will be greatly
> appreciated, because I blew all my intellectual credibility in-house
> when I accepted employment here... Sorry, but I can't tell you who
> we are, cause of what I've devulged to the world in this posting...
> 

So did you mail from you emloyers 'trane.com' ;-)

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