Norton, Dave wrote:
> Second, without being too explicit, can someone out there tell
> me of their real tried and tested assessment as to the "swiss
> cheese" factor concerning security of the NT OS. Some of our
> "NT rocket scientists" around here persist in claiming that UNIX is
> not a secure environment, whereas NT is. I have to continually
> tell them that UNIX is much more secure(able) because we know
> where the holes in the cheese are... That we don't hear about
> NT security problems much because there hasn't been enough
> elapsed time since its birth to thoroughly probe and exploit it...
We (SEGCO) are working on a program that will do just that and will
be available on our public WWW/FTP server this summer. We are sick
and tired of the industry being sold a bill of goods by microsoft
and we are determined to point out all of the insecurities in NT.
No point in checking now, the server is not up, but for future
reference: ftp.segco.com or www.segco.com
> Any comments, feedback from outside my organization will be greatly
> appreciated, because I blew all my intellectual credibility in-house
> when I accepted employment here... Sorry, but I can't tell you who
> we are, cause of what I've devulged to the world in this posting...
This is not meant as a public or private embarassment but as a
reminder how INSECURE sendmail is, just by posting this message
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you intended to or not...
your message came from nacg.trane.com (nacg.trane.com [22.214.171.124])
and the firewall that it was sent thru is an (InterLock SMTP Gateway
3.0) it was originally received by this list server on Thu, 11 Apr 1996
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Also trane.com is,
Trane Communications Service Dept. (TRANE-DOM)
3600 Pammel Creek Rd.
LaCrosse, WI 54601
Domain Name: TRANE.COM
Haas, Marleen (MH305) mhaas @
Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
Norton, David (DN136) dnorton @
The Trane Company - Network Control (TRANE-NC)
and rightly so.
c/o S.E.G. Co. email: sgaul @
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