On Mon, 3 Jun 1996, Russ wrote:
> It never ceases to amaze me how some Unichs seem to think that only UNIX
> experience is viable when it comes to working with an Internet connection.
Who said that? Anyway, experience comes from doing it and since UNIX and
the Internet have been around a lot longer than NT it's not surprising
that most of the people with solid time-tested Internet experience have a
> Some may be surprised to find out that TCP/IP has been included in NT since
> it was first released, and its been around for quite some time in DOS or
Most UNIX network admins have been attaching DOS boxes, Macs and Windows
machines via TCP/IP to UNIX servers for eons.
> One doesn't need a UNIX degree to know how IP works, or how the
> Internet works, for that matter.
I beg to differ. It only takes a while to get a basic familiarity with IP
and the Internet but while I didn't get a degree in IP I certainly did
spend an equivalent amount of time and effort in studying and learning the
> I know quite a few UNIX SQL administrators
> who wouldn't know how to configure their inetd if it bit them in the ass.
Doesn't surprise me. Why should a database administrator need to know
anything about configuring the network. Managing the company's central
mission-critical database is important enough on its own.
> - More security breaches occur internally than happen via an Internet
This is a good point and some people are looking at ways to use firewall
technology internally to protect against this.
> - Most companies do not have a security policy of any kind.
> Then there are the *majority* of companies who
> neither need, nor can afford, to have either, yet still want to be part of
> the 'net.
Right now these folks tend to be installing firewalls that are recommended
to them by a consultant (or their ISP) and are maintained by the
consultant (or their ISP).
> Surely you jest...like IP is rocket science or something...sheesh. I've
> never administered a UNIX system in my life, does it show that much?
When you are talking about firewalls, then yes, IP *IS* rocket science.
If you just mean setting up a few Windows or Macintosh or OS/2 desktops to
connect to the net, then no, there is no rocket science.
Michael Dillon ISP & Internet Consulting
Memra Software Inc. Fax: +1-604-546-3049
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