You did state "spare RS/6000" which is a loaded statement plus you did
state hatemail is ok. You also assumed we were mature :-0
Generally anyone selling stuff is an open target in this forum, like
it or not. Not that I agree with that but this is the Internet, not
Let's hope your firewall stands up to scrutiny better than you do.
I've seen a kind of "unspoken" thing where vendors are grilled and
have to "prove" themselves. Some don't survive (like Fred Cohen, but
that's another subject).
Dazzle us with your tech knowledge, realize most people will not buy
RS/6000s, and participate from a human perspective, not as an
employee. That's why we allow those Cisco techie guys in here for
Opinions are mine, not my employer's
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 23:46:48 -0400
From: Gene Lee <genel @
Subject: RE: RE: IBM Firewall
I don't understand where all this hostility is coming from. My job is =
technical support for marketing functions like trade shows. I've set up =
and configured LANs and Firewalls for all IBM functions as well as done =
billable SE work installing our firewall product at Canadian government, =
financial and educational institutions. I am not, nor have never been on =
In what way am I different from the rest of the users on the list? =
Besides the fact I am supplying information that was asked about the =
product that I support? Please enlighten me...
From: Ian Johnstone-Bryden[SMTP:ianj-b @
Sent: Monday, June 17, 1996 2:59 PM
To: Gene Lee; 'Firewalls @
Subject: Re: RE: IBM Firewall
> No, I'm not a salesman. There was specific mention of the IBM=20
> and request for more information (from Ian Gresley-Jones and Adam
> Shostack) so I supplied it. My title at IBM is Technical Marketing
> Support for TCP/IP workstation products.
Is Technical Marketing Support shorthand for failed techie now=20
selling, or failed salesman now trying to find out how it works?
> Gene Lee
> genel @
> genelee @
> From: Bill Stout[SMTP:bill .
> Sent: Monday, June 17, 1996 11:55 AM
> To: Gene Lee; 'Firewalls @
> Subject: Re: IBM Firewall
> You're a salesman. Go away. Don't come back.
> At 08:29 PM 6/14/96 -0400, Gene Lee wrote:
> >With regards to some of the messages concerning SNG, there is a=20
> beta of
> the FW available for download on http://www.ics.raleigh.ibm.com. If
> you have
> a spare RS/6000 kicking around, feel free to try it out (and send=20
> comments, criticism and/or hate-mail).
> >Among some of the new features are Network Address Translation, a
> less-complicated interface for creating filtering rules, support
> under AIX
> 4.1 and 4.2 (note 4.2 has the new Sendmail 8.7 - as Dave Roberts=20
> mentioned), support for VPNs with compliance to RFCs 1825-1829,
> support, and inbound ftp proxying.
> >There was some talk of the integrity checking of FW files, and AIX
> come with the Trusted Computing Base which keeps and compares
> checksums of
> all critical system files (using tcbck). The FW files can be added
> to the
> TCB. Although not in the current beta, the developers are working=20
> hashing of FW system files.
> >Gene Lee
> >genel @
> >genelee @