>
> here's the big mistake you've made....for some reason, you think the
> purpose of a firewall is to keep your users from doing things that make
> them more productive.....and if thats all you want it for, great, the
> shrink wrapped solution is probably for you....but don't fool yourself by
> thinking you're safe behind it.
But there is no reason that someone needs to know Unix to get these
things to work. This thread started with some people claiming you didn't
need to know Unix to use Gauntlet...I disagreed. I went on to say
that if you don't know Unix and don't have the time/resources to, then select
another firewall. You may lose something: if something breaks it could
be out of your control to fix it and you'll have to rely on your VAR or
the disigner's support, but that's usually a satisfactory answer for
most people, although obviously not satisfactory enough for the folks
on this list. But there is a difference. Most of the people who
participate in this list are already technical...already on the Internet
and already well versed in Internet DOs and DONTs....I obviously have
way to much time on my hands, just by the fact that I've been posting
all day to this list. But my customers dont have that time. That's
why when something breaks, they say "Hey Rick, how come my mail is stuck
on my BRAND X firewall?". Then, between posts to this list, I check
things out...ask questions, hopefully find the problem and give a solution.
> Do you want to put your 'life' in the hands of a telephone support guy?
I never said anything about telephone support. If that is all a VAR
can offer then select another VAR. Admitedly, a lot of (most) problems CAN
be solved over the phone...or via email (assuming email isn't dead),
but there is going to be a time when on-site support is needed...so
all I am saying is that when you buy this from a vendor, be sure that
the support is more than "please leave a message after the beep...",
regardless of what product you are using.
> Once again, I don't think you understand what a firewall is meant for. A
> firewall is not something you just plug in and go.....neither is the
> internet. Telephone's are a bad analogy, so I'd stay away from em.
But firewalls ARE becoming something you just plug in and go with.
Why do you think Border's black-box solution is #2 in the market?
What rule was written to say that I firewall can't be easy? The fact
that until recently they haven't been is irrelevant...they are becoming
easy now. People buy firewalls to protect their networks. If they need
to do that without occupying person-time with learning the ins and outs
of sendmail holes, spoofing, icmp redirects, etc...then they have
other options.
I have no clue how my air bag works in my car...I don't care how it works.
I just care that it does work when it needs to. I imagine a lot of people
out there feel the same way about a lot of things, be it toaster ovens,
puncture proof tires or Internet firewalls.
> I understand what an analogy is....but an analogy, and a fable for that
> matter, has to have some truth for it to be valuable.
You caught me...I've been lying all this time...Gauntlet is a snap to
use....my mom has been running it for 2 years and she can't even
program the VCR.
-Rick
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