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Subject: Re: IP Masquerading and vulnerabilities]
From: Darren Reed <avalon @ coombs . anu . edu . au>
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 03:39:26 +1000 (EST)
To: shaver @ neon . ingenia . ca (Mike Shaver)
Cc: peter @ baileynm . com, cosmo @ ebs . net, firewalls @ GreatCircle . COM
In-reply-to: <199607140617 . CAA20357 @ neon . ingenia . com> from "Mike Shaver" at Jul 14, 96 02:17:52 am

In some mail from Mike Shaver, sie said:
> 
> Thus spake Peter da Silva:
> > 
> > >    Linux 2.0 has an option to re-assemble all fragmented 
> > >    packets going thru it before applying the filter which stops it.
> > 
> > Or just block packets that are too short to hold all the options. If you try
> > and reassemble all the fragments that opens you up to a denial of service
> > attack, and there really isn't any legitimate need to have packets that
> > short.
> 
> The Linux 2.0 CONFIG_ALWAYS_DEFRAG stuff is designed to make the
> transparent proxy and NAT code more correct; otherwise, you can get
> things like PORT commands (which matter to the NAT stuff, obviously)
> split between 2 fragments.

Just quickly, I sometimes wonder about the wisdom of those adding these
featurisms to Linux.  At least I think I remember being taught in
networking classes how it is bad for a routing box to try reassemble
entire packets rather than just endpoints.

[I wonder if proxies/relays fit into this category too...]

The problem being delt with is where NAT meets proxy (effectively).
Unless the NAT uses a proxy of sorts to deal with translating addresses
inside any layer above transport, it is not going to be a bug-free NAT.
Well, this depends on how you define NAT...

> My recommendation is that the transparent proxy stuff is better than
> the NAT stuff (Darren? =) ), but it's not quite as plug-and-play.

I would NOT use NAT if I wanted to make sure FTP/Real Audio, etc, worked...

Darren


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