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Subject: Re: curios traceroute
From: Barney Wolff <barney @ databus . com>
Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 01:12 EDT
To: firewalls @ GreatCircle . COM

I believe that this is not a leak, but simply somebody using the private
space for network infrastructure.  On the one hand, this has the major
advantage that outsiders cannot attack your routers.  On the other, either
you must suppress the ICMP TTL-exceeded packets from those routers,
resulting in a false appearance of an outage in your network, or allow
them out, with the result that outsiders send queries to the firewalls
list :-)

I tend to favor the idea, although I have not actually done it.

Barney Wolff  <barney @
 databus .
 com>

> Date: Sat, 07 Sep 1996 19:38:13 -0500
> To: Felber @
 abacus .
 ch (Hubert Felber), firewalls @
 GreatCircle .
 COM
> From: Charles Ragan <ragan @
 INS .
 COM>
> Subject: Re: curios traceroute
> Cc: bridge @
 DIAL-SWITCH .
 CH
> Content-Length: 2661
> 
> It appears that someone is leaking.  Consistency in yours and mine is;
> 
> Tracing route to 194.209.14.36 over a maximum of 30 hops
>  
>  11   464 ms   333 ms   334 ms  UBN-gw5.ALTER.NET [137.39.129.26]
>  12   357 ms   342 ms   330 ms  zh11-eth0.unisource.ch [164.128.44.37]
>  13   442 ms   369 ms   438 ms  164.128.41.70
>  14   440 ms     *      396 ms  164.128.45.35
>  15   362 ms   368 ms   471 ms  192.168.1.1
>  16   479 ms   395 ms   374 ms  10.0.1.58
>  17  192.168.2.42  reports: Destination host unreachable.
> 
> Unisource Business Networks (Schweiz) AG (NET-UBN-CH)
>    Schermenwaldstrasse 13
>    CH-3063 Ittigen
> 
>    Netname: UBN-CH
>    Netnumber: 164.128.0.0
> 
>    Coordinator:
>       Bridge, Philip  (PB334)  bridge @
 DIAL-SWITCH .
 CH
>       +41 31 688 8262 (FAX) +41 31 688 8152
> 
>    Domain System inverse mapping provided by:
> 
>    UBNSRV.UNISOURCE.CH		164.128.36.34
>    SCSNMS.SWITCH.CH		130.59.1.30
> 
>    Record last updated on 13-Jun-95.
> 
> At 09:30 AM 9/6/96 GMT, Hubert Felber wrote:
> > Hi,
> >  Can anyone explain me the following traceroute?
> >  1. question: the last 3 addresses are private internet addresses.     Why
> do I see them on the list?   2. Why is the station 194.209.14.36 not in the list
> >    Tracing the route to 194.209.14.36
> >    1 SWISG1-S4.SWITCH.CH (130.59.195.2) 16 msec 16 msec 12 msec
> >   2 SWIEZ7-S5-3.SWITCH.CH (130.59.32.2) 20 msec 20 msec 20 msec
> >   3 SWIEG1-F0-0.SWITCH.CH (130.59.20.211) 16 msec 16 msec 20 msec
> >   4 ZH00-SRL0.UNISOURCE.CH (193.246.104.130) 24 msec 28 msec 20 msec
> >   5 ZH21-ETH0.UNISOURCE.CH (164.128.44.38) 20 msec
> >     ZH11-ETH0.UNISOURCE.CH (164.128.44.37) 20 msec
> >     ZH21-ETH0.UNISOURCE.CH (164.128.44.38) 20 msec
> >   6 164.128.41.66 36 msec 32 msec
> >     164.128.41.70 64 msec
> >   7 164.128.45.35 32 msec *  64 msec
> >   8 192.168.1.1 36 msec 32 msec 68 msec
> >   9 10.0.1.58 128 msec 116 msec 76 msec
> >  10 192.168.2.42 !H  !H  !H        
> >---
> >Hubert Felber (felber @
 abacus .
 ch)  __     ___    _ __
> >ABACUS Research AG            /\ |  \ /\/ __)| | |  \
> >9006 St. Gallen, Switzerland /  \| _//  \| | | | |\ ~
> >Phone +41 71 243 35 11      / /\ \  \ /\ \_| |_| | \
> >Fax   +41 71 243 35 00     /_/  \_\_//  \_\_)___/\__/
> >
> >
> >
> -----------------------------------------------------
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 ins .
 com          Dallas, TX 75040
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> 
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