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Subject: Re: Firewalls vs Blocking Sites
From: "Rick Owens" <rowens @ fvcc . cc . mt . us>
Organization: Flathead Valley Community College
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 12:52:39 -0700
To: firewalls @ GreatCircle . COM
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On 30 Oct 96 at 12:34, Todd Graham Lewis 
<lists @
 reflections .
 mindspring .
 com> wrote:

> On Wed, 30 Oct 1996, Vojin Urosevic wrote:
> 
> > It's easier to keep a swiss-knife next to your monitor just in
> > case you get all mixed up with the arp table, in order to take
> > your collegues net card. :). 
> 
> There are cards in existence which will allow you to set the MAC
> address. I have seen it done, and I have seen an attack work based
> on this feature. 

In particular, many (most?) of the software-set NICs allow use of an
arbitrary address; the setup program has an entry for an 'alternate'
address to be put into the card's EPROM.  And NIC setup programs are
usually easy to get... given the program and a few minutes,
temporarily 'borrowing' a machine's identity is easy. Thus, MACs are
not reliable authenticators in most if not all cases.  (This brings
to mind an even nastier prank possibility - user A goes to user B's
workstation, puts the setup program on the hard drive, runs it and
grabs the CEO's MAC, then tries for a prohibited web site, then
walks away.  Ouch.)
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