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Subject: Duplicate messages on Firewalls
From: Chris Pugrud <ChrisP @ steldyn . com>
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 10:07:59 -0700
To: "'Ron DuFresne'" <dufresne @ parka . winternet . com>
Cc: Firewalls Mailing list <firewalls @ greatcircle . com>

I've seen duplicate messages float through this list anywhere from days
to weeks after they have been sent (checking the sent time and date in
the header).

Chris

>-----Original Message-----
From:        	Ron DuFresne 
Sent:         	Saturday, November 02, 1996 10:14 AM
To:            	W.C. Epperson
Cc:            	Firewalls Mailing list
Subject:   	Re: Firewalls vs Blocking Sites

Am I the only one here getting dupes of postings to the list days after 
I've already gone through them?  Is this a problem fron the mailing list
side, or is my ISP screwing up again?

Thanks, later,

Ron DuFresne


On Thu, 31 Oct 1996, W.C. Epperson wrote:

> Wayne could of sed:
> > -> By the way, I've already gotten calls from people who said they lost a
lot
> > -> of sleep over their PC being blocked.  Knew they were doing the wrong
> > -> thing.  I think its working.  (Of couse this is before we limited
> > -> it to porno sites only).
> > -> 
> > 
> > Actually, have you thought of the legal ramifications of all this?
> > 
> > Since you have exerted control over access to sites, you have now assumed
> > responsibility for the material that does get through. 
> > 
> > 	"It's not my fault judge, since this site wasn't blocked
> > 	I thought it was officially approved"
> > 	
> > Wham! Multi-million dollar harrasment suit.
> [snip]
> 
> This conjecture is often made in discussions of location and/or content
> filtering, but I have not seen any case law that would remotely support it.
> (Caveat:  I'm not a lawyer, but I'll play one on the golf course if the
> strokes are right).  I assume folks are analogizing/extrapolating on 
> decisions that providers have given up their right to a "common carrier"
> defense and have become "publishers" when they begin to control content in
> any fashion, but those have to do with liability for publishing libel, 
> obscenity, etc.  That's a very different situation from that of an employer
> who deploys a technical solution that partially implements an access policy 
> of which employees have been properly informed.  If there are statutes or
> case precedents that would support an employer's harrassment liability 
> for completing the policy implementation via monitoring and applying 
> sanctions, I'd like to know about them.
> --
> W.C. Epperson			"I have great faith in fools. 
> Senior SE                        Self-confidence, my friends call it."
> Information Security Officer             --Edgar Allan Poe--
> DBA Emeritus
> Curmudgeon-for-Life
> Virginia Dept. of Education	        
> epperson @
 pen .
 k12 .
 va .
 us
> 

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