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Subject: Re: Plain-text passwords
From: Craig Brozefsky <cosmo @ ebs . net>
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 14:28:05 -0600 (CST)
To: Todd Graham Lewis <lists @ reflections . mindspring . com>
Cc: firewalls @ GreatCircle . COM
In-reply-to: <Pine . LNX . 3 . 91 . 961108132817 . 294U-100000 @ reflections . mindspring . com>

On Fri, 8 Nov 1996, Todd Graham Lewis wrote:

> > deslogin is pretty good to, and unlike S/Key or SSH, I know of noone who 
> > has found methods to attack it succesfully.
> 
> Cool; I'll look into it.

I think you can find it at ftp.uu.net

otherwise www search engines.

> > Make sure you are using Kerb5 at least, although reportedly there are 
> > exploits for Kerb5.  Kerb4 should be considered broken IMO.
> 
> Definitely.  If you use kerberos, be sure to get the latest beta of 
> version 5 from MIT.  Most vendors' stock versions are still v4 (groan), 
> not that we'd run vendor versions of important software anyway.  (Anyone 
> out there running stock sendmail on a solaris box?  8^)

The problem is not entirely implementation, but also design.  The 
reliance upon a "secure" time service mechanism is troublesome.  Also 
there is a problem with a known plaintext attack last time I looked.  
This doesn't even touch implementation problems, specific to the actual 
code and not design.

> Same as ssh; secure access to server and other machines, with all the 
> bells and whistles that kerberos gives you.

And all the headache and troubles too.  At least your safe from kiddie 
hackers, even if a suitably competent person could pull of an attack.

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