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Subject: Re: Firewall future
From: Anton J Aylward <anton @ the-wire . com>
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 07:55:35 -0500
To: Bill Stout <bill . stout @ hidata . com>
Cc: firewalls @ greatcircle . com

At 11:50 AM 12/11/96 -0800, you wrote:
>
>Let me make another statement:
>"If systems in a company's network use challenge/response authentication 
>and password encryption for all connections (such as where NT is headed), 
>there isn't justification for a firewall anymore.  Traditional Firewalls 
>are designed for UNIX environments where plaintext or unprotected 
>applications live, such as telnet/ftp/smtp/popmail/xwindows."
>
>Hmm.  Maybe next-generation firewalls will need to look at application/
>RPC transactions that desktop/server PCs use instead of just network port
>number traffic.
>
>(opinin ping)
>
>
>Bill Stout
>_______________________________________________________________________________
>Senior Systems Admin  NT/Backoffice/Solaris/WWW-Db/Firewalls/Cisco/VM-UNIX/VMS
>Hitachi Data Systems  408-970-4822   ---  Disclaimer:  I speak only for myself
>

Hmm.
I'm not sure I like the way this trend would eventually lead.
I thought the point of things like the OS was to centralise such isues as 
access control.   How will you guarentee the _application_ programmers will
code all
this correctly and not just write "plaintext, unprotected applications" ?

What's next?  The application doing the expansion of wildcard charecters in
parameters?
Oh? What? VMS? CP/M? OS/8? .....  Sounds like codebloat to me.
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