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Subject: Plug-gw/proxy server for SSH (was Re: No FQDNs in known_hosts, bug or feature? )
From: Michael Richardson <mcr @ sandelman . ottawa . on . ca>
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 16:32:48 -0500
To: ssh @ clinet . fi, firewalls @ greatcircle . com
Cc: jeanpaul @ dutepp0 . et . tudelft . nl
In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 26 Dec 1996 14:09:06 +0100." <199612261309 . AA28368 @ dutepp0 . et . tudelft . nl>

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H>>>>> "J" == J P M van der Jagt <jeanpaul @
 dutepp0 .
 et .
 tudelft .
 nl> writes:
    J> And I was thinking, maybe it's better not to record a hostname
    J> (either short of FQDN) in the known_hosts, but a numerical
    J> IP-address instead.  sshd then should not do a reverse mapping

  One reason to use the names given (and *not* FQDN) is that one may
want to pass these names through the SSH channel in a future protocol
because we'll want to do:

    J> B.t.w. do happen to know of a proxy server (or plug-gateway)
    J> for ssh which can be used with the FWTK?

  For incoming connections? I know of none.   

  For outgoing connections, you either want a transparent proxy
(e.g. Gauntlet rather than FWTK), or you want a sockified SSH client. 

  For incoming connections, I see two problems:

	a. how do you specify the final destination? This is where it
	might better to pass hostnames. Externally they could be
	CNAME's for the gateway, but the proxy server could use them
	to specify the final destination.

	b. the client currently decides what authentications to do.
	I'd like to have the client offer "server controlled
	authentications". 

	That would let the proxy server challenge the client, then
	plug to internal node, and then the internal node would
	challenge again. The type of each challenge could be very 
	different. (SecurId/CryptoCard/etc.. at firewall, RSA key
	internally, or other combinations)

   :!mcr!:            |  Network security consulting and 
   Michael Richardson |      contract programming
 WWW: <A HREF="http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/People/Michael_Richardson/Bio.html";>mcr @
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