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Subject: RE: Spoof 127.0.0.1 AND get a response. Possible?
From: Gene Lee <genel @ inforamp . net>
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 21:15:51 -0500
To: "firewalls @ GreatCircle . COM" <firewalls @ GreatCircle . COM>, "Frank O'Dwyer" <frank . odwyer @ sse . ie>, "'Ziv Dascalu'" <ziv @ AbirNet . com>

On Tuesday, February 18, 1997 1:52 PM, Ziv Dascalu[SMTP:ziv @
 AbirNet .
 com] wrote:
>
>--- On Tue, 18 Feb 1997 14:12:02 -0000  Frank O'Dwyer <frank .
 odwyer @
 sse .
 ie> wrote:
>>Given that a packet with a source address of 127.0.0.1
>>can be forged and delivered (via SLIP or whatever) to the 
>>target machine, is there any way to get a response packet 
>>back to the attacker machine?  In other words, is it reasonable
>>to assume this is _not_ possible (i.e. that routing will either try
>>to deliver the response locally or will just toss the response 
>>packet on the floor). Will the incoming forged packet even get 
>>delivered, or must IP forwarding be on for this? What about
>>on Windows '95 or on NT?
>
>Any attempt to send a packet to 127.0.0.1 will create a loop back on your machine
>TCOP/IP stack so it will not get out.
>even if you modify the stack itself most routers and for sure firewalls will
>not forward, they will be confused to think that it is their own packet.

I think Frank was talking about a packet with 127.0.0.1 as it's source address not destination.

--
Gene Lee
genel @
 inforamp .
 net
genelee @
 vnet .
 ibm .
 com


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