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Subject: RE: Firewall Sparc platforms?y
From: Joseph Judge <joej @ joesmac . ultranet . com>
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 12:49:57 -0500
To: "'Bob Beck'" <beck @ obtuse . com>
Cc: "firewalls @ GreatCircle . COM" <firewalls @ GreatCircle . COM>

Hmmmm... yes - I guess I should be a bit more clear.

Lets assume a large company with a T3 ... lots of employees flying out doing their normal
http, telnet and ftp proxy traffic; email in and out; and a healthy set of web servers on the 
Internet side of this firewall cluster doing real work (transactions, mutual fund trading, 
proprietary client/server protocol doing stock quotes/trade/historical charting/etc).

So, given a "normal, large, business effort" on the Internet ... has any Sun Sparc people out
there moved past the Ultras and "desktop" Suns over to the Enterprise Sun servers or crossed
the line to the super-duper Enterprise 4000 type machines ?

Has any Sun Sparc people migrated away from Sun  towards the Resiliant Sparc boxes or the
Axil Sparc servers ? (because they needed more speed for price than Sun ... or a fault-tolerant
box better than Sun's HA or RAS features) ?

(etc, etc, etc)

again - thanks ... I'll summarize responses to the list when this thread dies
* joe
* 


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From:  Bob Beck[SMTP:beck @
 obtuse .
 com]
Sent:  Saturday, February 22, 1997 4:53 AM
To:  Joseph Judge
Cc:  firewalls @
 GreatCircle .
 COM
Subject:  Re: Firewall Sparc platforms?y

> 
> 
> For those of you out there using Sparc boxes for firewall platforms ... what is your
> typical hardware build? (just curious)
> 
> Something like ...
> Sun Sparc Ultra,  512 memory, 4 Gig RAID box - for the application relay
	
 ( *hwarf*!  C|N>K  )

	Try an IPC with 32 meg of ram.  Or for that matter a Sun 3/60 with
24 (full up of them old 1 meg simms!) running NetBSD. plug in a gig of
disk for logs.

 Unless you have a phenominally fast net feed and a huge number of users
using it you don't need anything huge.  Your bottleneck will be the network
speed, not the firewall speed. If you're running a lot of proxies, you may 
need a reasonable amount of memory.  You need enough disk to hold
as much logs as you want to keep online. 

	I've seen installations where a wimpy 486 keeps up with an 800 user
site behind it running as a dual homed proxy box. 

	The answer is it depends what you're doing with the machine, and 
the speed of your network feed and what you're doing over it.

	-Bob

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