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Subject: Re: Gauntlet / SmartWall source :-(
From: C Matthew Curtin <cmcurtin @ research . megasoft . com>
Date: Sun, 6 Apr 1997 18:43:25 -0400 (EDT)
To: Joseph Judge <joej @ joesmac . ultranet . com>
Cc: "'Firewalls Mailing List'" <firewalls @ GreatCircle . COM>
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Reply-to: cmcurtin @ research . megasoft . com

>>>>> "Joe" == Joseph Judge <joej @
 joesmac .
 ultranet .
 com> writes:

Joe> With the release of the Solaris versions of Gauntlet and
Joe> SmartWall, the ability of buying the source code has disappeared.

As some black-hat folks I know might say:
 "Th4+ $uX0rz"

Joe> Does anyone else muck with the source code like I do ? 

I do... For internal stuff here, I like to use bits of FWTK for
various jobs.  Some tools are heavily hacked, some are just compiled
as-is, and most are somewhere in the middle.

In consulting situations, I typically recommend Gauntlet if someone
wants to "buy a firewall," or need something like that for a bastion
host.  I've never known anyone with Gauntlet (besides me) to hack at
the code.

In reality, I suspect that this is just a sign of the firewalling
times.  Firewalls are becoming commodity items.  People don't
typically screw around with their household appliances and other
commodity-type things.  Firewalls are headed in the same direction,
and I think that's only going to continue as many IS organizations
continue to want to hire button-pusher types, and buy things that
claim to bring their systems to that level.

Whether this is a Good Thing, a Bad Thing, or some combination thereof
(I vote for the latter, myself) isn't really relevant; it's what's
happening. As a result, the here-are-some-tools-build-it-yourself
approach will probably continue to be used in places where it has been
done alreday, and almost all new installations will be of the
simple-enough-for-a-button-pusher type.

-- 
Matt Curtin  Chief Scientist  Megasoft, Inc.  cmcurtin @
 research .
 megasoft .
 com
http://www.research.megasoft.com/people/cmcurtin/    I speak only for myself
Death to small keys.  Crack DES NOW!   http://www.frii.com/~rcv/deschall.htm



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