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Subject: Re: [FW1] [FW-1][Solaris 2.5] Routing problems
From: bjc @ haven . JPL . NASA . GOV (BJ Chippindale)
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 00:31:57 GMT
To: drexx @ pspi . com . ph
Cc: firewalls @ greatcircle . com, fw-1-mailinglist @ us . checkpoint . com

Drexx

    My experience has been that the router NEEDS to have a route added to
    identify where your internal machines are.  The firewall separates the
    router from its previously "attached" subnets and all the connectivity
    information that was automagically generated disappears.   

    My firewall is "inside" my router ( the router faces the threat first ).
    If your configuration is more usual just reverse the references I use.
  
    I simply tell the Cisco that to get to subnets inside the firewall
    it has to go TO the firewall.  Then I do something similar on the
    firewall itself, static route default for everything not inside the
    firewall sends things out to the router.  

    inside ---- firewall ---- router ---- internet

    The interposition of the firewall means that the router no longer 
    knows ANY routes to the inside.  It should have them static.  The
    only way they can get advertised is by running routed on the firewall
    and that is not what any of us want to do, or running a router 
    inside that advertises the routes in some manner.  I am not able   
    to tell you how that might work as it doesn't apply to my install. 

    Incidentally, if you use OSPF on the router instead of RIP you can 
    have additional headaches having to export the static routes.  It is
    a non-obvious "feature" of the Cisco implementation <g>.

good luck
BJ

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> From: Joe Loiacono <jloiacon @
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> Subject: Re: [FW1] [FW-1][Solaris 2.5] Routing problems
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> Drexx Laggui wrote:
> > 
> > Hello World,
> > 
> > I am having deep routing problems. Anybody please help me...
> > 
> > Situation:
> > 1] FW-1 can ping anybody, the intranet and Internet.
> > 2] My Internet web server cannot even ping out to the Internet.
> > 3] Haven't really tested the intranet hosts yet. Can they ping each
> >    other on the network?
> > 4] I haven't done any 'route add' commands on the Cisco Internet
> >    router. Do I need to?
> 
> [snip]
> 
> >    To make things work (act of desperation, but I really want static
> >    routing only on FW-1) :
> > 8] (FW-1 and Internet server) in.routed -s
>                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> Assuming your FW-1 platform is Solaris 2.5, you're the fourth case on
> the list that has had to run routed in order to get the firewall to work
> properly. This may be the same problem.
> 
> Joe
> -- 
> In theory, theory and practice are the same; 
> In practice, they're not even close!
> 

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