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Subject: [follow-up] SQL*Net proxy thru FW-1 or Sunscreen EFS
From: drexx @ pspi . com . ph (Drexx Laggui)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 13:08:41 -0800
To: firewalls @ greatcircle . com

Hello World,

Sorry I took so long in posting this summary, I got kinda distracted on
more prioritized projects.	);^]

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My follow-up questions:

I just came to realize that allowing SQL*Net proxy is a considerable risk,
even if on a private WAN. (Telecomm-line hijackers could issue queries and
updates on my central database server, for instance.) So I came up with 2
solutions:

1] Install "SKIP for PCs" on the remote Win95 clients running the
   Developer 2000 for secure, authenticated and authorized SQLNet
   transmission. It will of course be screened by Solstice FW-1 3.0 or the
   Sunscreen EFS sitting on the main LAN. 
2] Install an authenticating SQLNet proxy application that can do S/Key,
   or other methods. (Install this on the firewall? Or on the DB server?)
   I guess this option would be cheaper, right? (But should I trust the
   custom developer of the SQL*Net proxy? (Hehehe !))

   Which is better of the above? Anmy similar experiences?

3] Considering:
   estimated Ultra-1 firewall/router latency = 1 to 5 ms
   WAN bandwidth (via modem) = max. of 38.8 kbps shared for every 3 PCs
   download sizes = 80kb image files every 30 min. on every remote PC

Do you think I need less bandwidth-sharing among PCs when I consider the
overhead of all the security features of my private WAN? Like, is my
bandwidth enough for a moderate user response on the remote LANs?

To simply illustrate:

[Oracle DB server] <--> [firewall/router] <--> {dial-up lines} <--+
                                                                  |
       [3x PCs with SKIP running Developer 2000] <--> [router] <--+                                 
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My original post was:

> Has anybody tried accessing an Oracle database over private TCP/IP WAN
> links ?
> Specifically, using connections via Developer 2000 clients on
> remote PCs going through Firewall-1 before the main Oracle database
>  on the central facility?
> 
> Would anybody care to kindly share any experiences? Any pitfalls to
> avoid? Would allowing only the SQL*Net protocol thru the firewall be
> enough to get the job done? Or do we have to have telnet thru also ?
> (Sorry, I'm no database programmer. I'm just your regular hardware type
> of guy.)
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In summary, I was told that:

1] Sandro Pereira <spereira @
 mandic .
 com .
 br>

yes i already used this kind of configuration, but the bandwith and line
speed was not enough to hold on all clients connects and perfomance,  
remember client/server was developed for  _high_speed_ lan/was at least  
10Mbits, so after a while i changed from wan client/server to a database 
replication which was much better.

To allow connections what you'll need to do is just enable SQL*NET 
connections thru tcp/ip port 1521 or whatever port is in your 
LISTENER.ORA (BTW this file is located in database server machine and 
defines wich tcp/ip port oracle sql*net will use for connections ).

2] Jeffrey Papen <jpapen @
 youbet .
 com>

I made a custom TCP port 1433 for SQL.  This has worked great for me.

3] Keith Smith <Keith .
 Smith @
 svip .
 com>

>From memory, SQL*Net uses a single TCP/IP port.  At a guess, just
opening the port for inbound or outbound connections should be enough.

Bear in mind that SQL*Net V1 uses a different port than V2. 

Check the /etc/services file on any UNIX machine running Oracle to find
out which ports are used.
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Many many thanks to these guys who kindly responded,
Drexx.


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