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Subject: RE: Pulling out Checkpoint-1 firewalls
From: Russ <Russ . Cooper @ RC . on . ca>
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 11:26:01 -0400
To: Russ <Russ . Cooper @ RC . on . ca>, "'Frank Willoughby'" <frankw @ in . net>
Cc: "firewalls @ GreatCircle . com" <firewalls @ GreatCircle . COM>

>C'mon Russ.  In the first place, neither the Mossad, nor Checkpoint
will
>make a public statement about this - whether it is true or not.  (And
if

[snip]

>Just out of curiousity, Russ.  Generally, your responses to this 
>list are fairly mellow & even-handed.  However, there was a lot 
>of vigor in your defense of Checkpoint's firewall.  By chance, 
>do you happen to sell or resell the Checkpoint firewall?

Actually, Frank, I think if you really look back at my posting style its
more like I come on strongly against vague supposition and innuendo and
call for facts, statements, and details. That's certainly how I see
myself.

I would have made the same argument regardless of the vendor involved
since, as you also said, its impossible to answer the question of a
connection between a vendor and an agency to any sufficient degree. At
what point does a connection become a problem for customers of the
vendors product anyway? What's the connection, I mean, what does it
entail? So asking the question about any vendor shouldn't be just "is
there a connection". Most Firewall vendors have former employees of this
or that agency, so why should that alone make them suspect?

I don't sell anything other than my own advice and my advice is always
based on a complete picture, not partial snap-shots (i.e. I look at both
the vendor and customer position and state my beliefs understanding both
sides). I receive nothing for my choices, only the viability of the
solution I propose (iow, I get no commissions from anyone).

I use Check Point products, and recommend them, but I also use and
recommend Digital's, Raptor, Global Internet, and others. As I said in
my post, the particular requirements of a customers environment dictate
the best product for the job.

I guess we all need our integrity questioned every once in a while.

Cheers,
Russ
R.C. Consulting, Inc. - NT/Internet Security
owner of the NTBugTraq mailing list:
http://ntbugtraq.rc.on.ca/index.html



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