Russ, Frank & other,
I beleive, Bill made the comment due to the political issues between Israel
and Palestin. Its not because Checkpoint's product is not secure or
recommendation from a "security expert". I suppose its a issue of boycott
the product. Bill, am I rite ??
At 11:26 AM 6/25/97 -0400, you wrote:
>>C'mon Russ. In the first place, neither the Mossad, nor Checkpoint
>>make a public statement about this - whether it is true or not. (And
>>Just out of curiousity, Russ. Generally, your responses to this
>>list are fairly mellow & even-handed. However, there was a lot
>>of vigor in your defense of Checkpoint's firewall. By chance,
>>do you happen to sell or resell the Checkpoint firewall?
>Actually, Frank, I think if you really look back at my posting style its
>more like I come on strongly against vague supposition and innuendo and
>call for facts, statements, and details. That's certainly how I see
>I would have made the same argument regardless of the vendor involved
>since, as you also said, its impossible to answer the question of a
>connection between a vendor and an agency to any sufficient degree. At
>what point does a connection become a problem for customers of the
>vendors product anyway? What's the connection, I mean, what does it
>entail? So asking the question about any vendor shouldn't be just "is
>there a connection". Most Firewall vendors have former employees of this
>or that agency, so why should that alone make them suspect?
>I don't sell anything other than my own advice and my advice is always
>based on a complete picture, not partial snap-shots (i.e. I look at both
>the vendor and customer position and state my beliefs understanding both
>sides). I receive nothing for my choices, only the viability of the
>solution I propose (iow, I get no commissions from anyone).
>I use Check Point products, and recommend them, but I also use and
>recommend Digital's, Raptor, Global Internet, and others. As I said in
>my post, the particular requirements of a customers environment dictate
>the best product for the job.
>I guess we all need our integrity questioned every once in a while.
>R.C. Consulting, Inc. - NT/Internet Security
>owner of the NTBugTraq mailing list:
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