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Subject: Re: Hacking Attempt (fwd)
From: Bradley Smith <brads @ access . digex . net>
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 21:07:37 -0400 (EDT)
To: "Amy (Cremer) Briggs" <amyc @ libofmich . lib . mi . us>
Cc: firewalls @ GreatCircle . COM
In-reply-to: <Pine . A32 . 3 . 91 . 970716082612 . 49979D-100000 @ libofmich . lib . mi . us>

Hmmm.. I don't know of any French law that would prevent an ISP from
enforcing an Acceptable Use Policy.

This is a totally unsatisfactory response; you're obviously dealing with
an ISP that doesn't care at best, and is rogue at worst.  If you're in the
mood to pursue the issue I would recommend you do the following:

1.  Send a copy of the orginal mail to certsvp @
 renater .
 fr (CERT France).
Make sure you include the response from iway.fr.  Notify them that you
believe the individual in question is in violation of 18 USC 1030 (a)(5),
not to mention Michigan Statute 752.795 Sec 4 (*Note: IANAL, and you
should check this with a legal pro)  

2.  cc all of iway.fr's upstream providers, to let them know that they are
providing service to an ISP that evidently couldn't care less about
customer criminal activity.  To the best of my knowledge, they are as
follows:

CAIS (abuse @
 cais .
 com)
Genuity (security @
 genuity .
 net)
ebone (cert @
 ebone .
 net) 


I'm quite sure that the activity in question is in violation of the AUP's 
of all the above.

This should adjust Monsieur Cornet's attitude appropriately.


-brad 
 



On Wed, 16 Jul 1997, Amy (Cremer) Briggs wrote:
A
> Here is the response I received back from iway.fr.  Looks like they won't be 
> of much help.  Is this type of response usual or is it more due to french 
> laws.
> 
> TIA,
> 
> Amy
> 
>    \\\\\\\\\\\\\\Amy Briggs  Microcomputer Support Specialist///////////////
> \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\////////////////////////////////////////////
>            ** Its not what you've got, its what you give--TESLA **
> 
> Hi,
> 
> i'm sorry for this 'hacking attempt' to the root account of your server,
> but in respect with french legalization, i can't do more investigations
> without an official french federal request, and can't give you more
> informations.
> 
> I expect you to write me again for any other problems you should meet
> with our network. 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> -- 
> Fabien Cornet - Network Operation Center Operator - email :
> fcornet @
 iway .
 fr
> Internet Way  -  204, Boulevard Bineau  -  92200 Neuilly sur Seine - 
> France
> Phone : +33 01 41 43 27 92                            Fax : +33 01 41 43
> 21 11
>       	"Futur of mankind is somewhere in universe but not here."
> 
> 
> 



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