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Subject: Re: swIPe abstract (was Re: raptor encryption)
From: peter @ baileynm . com (Peter da Silva)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 08:42:29 -0500 (CDT)
To: dave @ nic . com (Dave Wreski)
Cc: firewalls @ GreatCircle . COM
In-reply-to: <Pine . GSO . 3 . 95q . 970720220542 . 11510C-100000 @ nic . com> from "Dave Wreski" at Jul 20, 97 10:09:42 pm

> > Oh yes. IPsec is really taking off like wildfire, isn't it?

> Humorous, but care to speculate as to why it isn't wide-spread at this
> point?

A freely available good-enough implementation is better than an ideal
implementation that requires application changes.

> Is ssh the alternative these days?

ssh is good-enough. It's not a true IP tunnel, like swIPe or AltaVista/PPTP/...
it's more like a distributed proxy arrangement. But for a lot of purposes
that's as good, and for others it's even better for the same reason that a
proxy is easier to implement securely than a packet filter.

swIPe could possibly do the job, if a standard for wrapping RSA or D-H key
exchange over its private-key encryption model could be agreed on.


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