Dear List subscribers:
I apologize in advance for this rather off-the-subject reply to this
message. I tried to maintain the tenet of this list but at the same time, I
feel I must respond to a premature conclusion that one of our fellow
subscribers has reached without plausible explanation.
>lol,
> Inno - I'm very sure the passion of your sense of righteous indignation
>applies to any criticism of the democratic institutions prevading Nigeria,
>including it's popularly elected gov't. It does have a popularly elected
>gov't, right? :)
No, it doesn't and infact I am a critic of the government than most people
are. So what does the fact that it doesn't have a democratically elected
government have to do with teaching crimes in schools? OK, the government
isn't democratic, therefore, do all non-democratic governments abet criminal
activities? Hmm, I am trying to go with your reasoning here...
>
>And of course, the ring busted in New York with all that merchandise being
>shipped to Nigeria, purchased with stolen credit card numbers, was
>probably just a fabrication. Darn that New York Times and Wall Street
>Journal...
>
OK, it may not have been. But, does the action of a few imply that a whole
COUNTRY is involved in that type of activity? If you can rashly come to such
a conclusion, then you are not objectionable in your rationale.
Sure the NY Times and The Wall Street Journal (of which I was a previous
subscriber), are reputable newspapers, do you believe everything you read in
these papers? I have no doubt at all that what the newspapers reported were
untrue, but I do know for a fact that the Nigerian government cannot allow
teaching of "credit card fraud" in public schools when almost all the entire
residents have not even seen, heard of, or know of credit card, let alone
teach it in its high schools.
>I'll just have to get better sources from now on... like someone who has
>roots there and visits regularly. Gosh I feel so, well, unpolitically
>correct now... I stereotyped.
>
You don't necessarily have to have roots there to reason. You were trying to
fast-talk the entire firewall list subscribers to believing your claim. The
sources that you have sited are probably credible in your opinion BUT you
have failed to do one thing -- prove that your theory is true. You have
merely misconstrued what the newspapers reported and have added your own
spice to it inappropriately.
The fact that the Nigerian government is corrupt and the fact that some
Nigerians committed some credit card fraud is no way a yardstick for coming
to a conclusion that "Nigeria who has made it a state sponsored activity and
teaches the tricks of the trade in their high schools" according to you.
Still, you haven't substantiated your syllogism. Therefore, your point is
baseless.
So, let me re-ask my previous question: What Nigerian school teaches people
on credit card fraud when credit cards are not even used there?
>On Sat, 30 Aug 1997, Inno Eroraha wrote:
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>> At 03:52 PM 8/29/97 -0500, you wrote:
>> >
>> >This is off topic. Having said that...
>> > (1) Anyone can phone,mail, input in a credit card and purchase. It
>> >leaves a trail and that's what deters most (except Nigeria who has made it
>> >a state sponsored activity and teaches the tricks of the trade in their
>> >high schools. So the concern is valid.
>> This is pure garbage! What evidence do you have regarding this? What
>> Nigerian school teaches people on credit card fraud when credit cards are
>> not even used there? Unless, you have seen this yourself (which I seriously
>> doubt), I would consider your conception stereotypical. Oh I guess you can
>> also say that the fact that armed robberies are commited in US, that US
>> schools "teach the tricks" of armed robbery? Why would Nigerian government
>> even bother when credit card is not even used there and more than 95% of the
>> residents haven't even seen a credit card?
>>
>> FYI, I attended 12 years of schooling in Nigeria and visit there quite
>> regularly. Further, I obtain news from there on quite frequently, and I have
>> not heard of or seen schools where Criminal activities are being taught to
>> students. Sure there are Criminal acts in every country, and sure there are
>> criminal acts being committed in Nigeria, but not on credit card.
>>
>> So, please get your facts straight before spilling out your unsubstantiated
>> none sense. Perhaps your point would have been well taken if you had shun
>> from an issue that you have no knowledge of.
>>
>> -0-
>> inno
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