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Subject: Re: Ascend's Secure Access Firewall
From: Alex Hutton <Alex @ Progressive-Systems . com>
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 09:13:58 -0400
To: Brian Mitchell <brian @ firehouse . net>
Cc: "Cline, Robert" <RCline @ new-breed . com>, firewalls @ GreatCircle . COM, brian @ firehouse . net
References: <Pine . BSI . 3 . 95 . 970930010116 . 14414A-100000 @ shell . firehouse . net>

Seeing as the Ascend product evolved from the Morning Star product, I
doubt it is a PIX knock-off.

Brian Mitchell wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 29 Sep 1997, Cline, Robert wrote:
> 
> > I've been considering using Ascend's Secure Access Firewall. There are
> > two main reasons: we are seriously considering using their routers no
> > matter which firewall we use, and it would be MUCH less expensive to use
> > their firewalls (assuming of course, we use their routers) than any
> > other firewall I've seen. Everything I've read about SAF seems to be
> > very much like what I've read about the other products. It seems to be a
> > solid, modern, commercial product. We would lose some flexibility
> > (pretty much only works with Ascend), but we would gain lower cost and a
> > same-vendor match with our routers and firewall. Also, our current ISP
> > and the leading contender as a replacement use a lot of Ascend and are
> > very familiar with Ascend.
> 
> I'm not sure how must trust I would place in a product from a company that
> thinks checking the 21st byte for source routing information sufficiently
> blocks loose and strict source routing. From my perspective, it looks like
> a cheap pix knockoff, although my view may be horribly tainted.

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