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Subject: Re: CyberGuard
From: renegade <renegade @ blkbox . com>
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 13:55:03 -0600
To: Steve Kruse <jsk347 @ sprynet . com>, Edward Cracknell <edward @ securIT . net>
Cc: firewalls @ GreatCircle . COM
In-reply-to: <3 . 0 . 3 . 32 . 19971121094706 . 006a9364 @ m6 . sprynet . com>
References: <199711210002 . AAA22306 @ radius . ispc . net>

here the flaming starts, but i agree, i have serious doubts about any
security company, who is more concerend with marketing , than with product
development.

i do not recommend a products or products based on marketing, to me this is
smoke up #$ @
 %@@
i am much more concerned on a product development and testing, as well as
cert's, this weighs
more to me than standard marketing, therefore the products like SecurIT
family and Cyberguard
are far more desireable based on the client sites and thier requirements.



>At 09:47 AM 11/21/97 -0500, Steve Kruse wrote:
>Ed:
>
>Probably for the same reason that the Milkyway SecurIT Firewall with TRUE
>"EAL-3" certification doesn't get too much mention...we're busy spending
>more money on product, than marketing!  :-)   Seriously, Milkyway is the
>ONLY firewall on the NSA's EPL list.  You can check it out as it is up on
>the EPL webpage (see: http://www.radium.ncsc.mil/tpep/epl/cc_st.html).
>Both FW-1 and Raptor spend zillions of $$ on marketing but I think that
>Cyberguard (a very good product, BTW) and us just don't spend that much.
>The more noise, the more recognition, I guess!  
>
>Cheers!
>
>Steve Kruse
>
>At 12:02 AM 11/21/97 GMT, you wrote:
>>Can someone tell me why the CyberGuard firewall with it's ITSEC E3
>>evaluation certificate and sexy features like dedicating CPU's to
>>specific tasks and multi-layered operation , never really gets a shout?
>>
>>I'm not inviting flame/spam, but I do find that CP FW-1 gets an enormous
>>coverage and I must be missing something (other than a brain!)
>>
>>Can you also find time to drop a few words on GTA firewalls out of
>>interest?
>>
>>Some of you might know why I'm asking this....  ;-)
>>
>>If you do.....what other answers do I want?
>>
>>
>>Regards
>>
>>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>>Edward Cracknell - <edward @
 SecurIT .
 net>
>>
>>
>>
>**************************************************
>* Steve Kruse                  Milkyway Networks *
>* Network Sales Support    1342 E. Vine St. #224 *
>*                            Kissimmee, FL 34744 *
>* http://www.milkyway.com     skruse @
 milkway .
 com *
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>
>


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